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rayiner ranked #16 [karma: 125434]

Do all countries have something like an Italian mafia? Is there a German or British mafia of a similar scale and sophistication, but we just call them something else?

doener ranked #42 [karma: 78003]
crazygringo ranked #39 [karma: 81131]

If your customers want features that require compute and money, and your competitor offers them, then you don't really have a choice if you want to stay in business.

bookofjoe ranked #25 [karma: 102531]
Tomte ranked #10 [karma: 159545]

‘When you have a choice between being right or being kind, choose kind.’

TeMPOraL ranked #19 [karma: 113242]

For however brief a moment. It's gone now.

pjmlp ranked #17 [karma: 125289]

Cancer treatment goes back to particle physics research at CERN, the Web was born there, cloud was previously known as Grid Computing at CERN,

Three examples of how humanity would not be as we know it today without CERN.

As Alumni, there are many other changes that trace back to CERN.

We don't sit only on the H1 beer garden and go skiing.

pjmlp ranked #17 [karma: 125289]

They certainly will if regulations are part of it.

US has their tariffs and last stage capitalism, we have our government enforcement laws.

bookofjoe ranked #25 [karma: 102531]

I use a Casio HL-815L to manage my checkbook. I lost the ability to do this math in my head about 10 years ago. I am 77.

dragonwriter ranked #15 [karma: 127137]

Some kids really do just run into the road seemingly randomly. Other kids run in with a clear purpose, not at all randomly, and sometimes (perhaps very rarely, but it only takes once and bad luck) forget to look both ways. Kids are not cookie cutter copies that all behave the same way in the same circumstances (even with the same training).

stavros ranked #45 [karma: 75543]

> At least this is a loosing game for Google, since this is client side behaviour.

This is where their most brilliant engineers have bested you, because they control the client too.

stavros ranked #45 [karma: 75543]

He did do it himself.

If you meant "without AI", then it would have never been done in the first place, so you can choose your preference there.

jacquesm ranked #2 [karma: 237918]

It is not as likely as some of the others but still more likely than five or four... it all depends on what you started out with.

stavros ranked #45 [karma: 75543]

For me, there's nothing like being able to search for "brown dog" and get all the photos of my dog back. Not to mention all the other things Immich has that make managing a library pleasant.

I not only urge you to try it, but to buy the "supporter" pack, Immich really deserves it.

TeMPOraL ranked #19 [karma: 113242]

Wrong or not, the industry embraced it.

I can sort of understand it if I squint: every feature is a maintenance burden, and a risk of looking bad in front of users when you break or remove it, even if those users didn't use this feature. It's really a burden to be avoided when the point of your product is to grow its user base, not to actually be useful. Which explains why even Fischer-Price toys look more feature-ful and ergonomic than most new software products.

pjmlp ranked #17 [karma: 125289]

Except knowing where the jump lands, very explicit.

pjmlp ranked #17 [karma: 125289]

Like the netbooks weren't going away.

Animats ranked #11 [karma: 159284]

Is Grok listening to Starlink traffic?

Animats ranked #11 [karma: 159284]

Median house price / median income is at an all-time high for the US.[1] But what that means is that the rest of the country has caught up to California's overpriced housing. Hence the call for a 50-year mortgage. Still, looks a lot like the 2008 housing bubble.

[1] https://www.longtermtrends.com/home-price-median-annual-inco...

simonw ranked #28 [karma: 96984]

"Talking" here doesn't literally mean talking. It means figuring out the scope of the problem, researching solutions, communicating with stakeholders, debating architecture, building exploratory prototypes, breaking down projects - it's all the stuff that isn't writing the code.

I've worked at various sizes of organization. Most notably I joined Eventbrite when they were less than 100 developers and stayed while they grew to around 1,000.

jacquesm ranked #2 [karma: 237918]

The end of 2026 was remarkably different to the world of today, and it that's logical it is - checks calendar - already 31 days ago. Now imagine another year of this.

jacquesm ranked #2 [karma: 237918]

It's the kind of confidence that would normally lead to a jail term.

jrockway ranked #48 [karma: 73210]

Interesting application! A friend of mine built a model like this to help her make her voice more feminine, and it is neat to see a similar use case here.

Brajeshwar ranked #50 [karma: 71012]

Tangential, but on the topic of learning/practicing language, I was thinking that in India, with such high population density, if I want to practice speaking any language, I can find quite a few people within a short walking distance. Personally, I can speak three languages (default for most Indians), but it is very common to find people who speak 5+ languages. I can also understand many other languages that share similar sounds and commonalities to Hindi, so I can be around Gujarati, Haryanavi, Bengali, Marathi, etc., without getting totally lost. Unfortunately, despite living in the South and making many attempts, I could never pick up any Southern language beyond a few words to get by.

Yesterday, while on a walk with a friend discussing SAP, he stopped to greet someone and spoke in Oriya. When I asked, he said he can speak 5 languages fluently and can get by in another 5 or so.

My daughter needs help with her French; we have a neighbor for that (not an App). I’m at three words—Oui, Bonjour, and Bonsoir.

jacquesm ranked #2 [karma: 237918]

> I actually think Sam is “better” than say Elon or even Dario because he seems like a typical SF/SV tech bro.

If you nail the bar to the floor, then sure, you can pass over it.

> He says a lot of fluff, doesn’t try to be very extreme, and focuses on selling.

I don't now what your definition of extreme is but by mine he's pretty extreme.

> I think I personally prefer that over Elon’s self induced mental illnesses and Dario being a doomer promoting the “end” of (insert a profession here) in 12 months every 6 months.

All of them suffer from thinking their money makes them somehow better.

> I hope OpenAI continues to dominate even if the margins of winning tighten.

I couldn't care less. I'm on the whole impressed with AI, less than happy about all of the slop and the societal problems it brings and wished it had been a more robust world that this had been brought in to because I'm not convinced the current one needed another issue of that magnitude to deal with.

JumpCrisscross ranked #7 [karma: 175940]

> that whole not using facial recognition and deleting the data after use wasn't real

What are you referring to?

stavros ranked #45 [karma: 75543]

Have you been to the Barbican?

lxm ranked #13 [karma: 139690]

They explain it towards the end - the videos are specific enough and the team was small enough that affected parties would identify him easily anyways.

JumpCrisscross ranked #7 [karma: 175940]

> Why should either of them get the death penalty?

Pardons. If he's pardoned there is a good chance he'll kill again. (And inspire copycats.)

We need to eliminate pardons across our system of justice. Between Biden pardoning his son and Trump pardoning the J6'ers, there should be a bipartisan case for closing this.

PaulHoule ranked #24 [karma: 104153]

Look, they've got DJI, which wants to be a world-leader in drones. And in the US we have corrupt defense contractors who want to make Lockheed-Martin profits. Thus we've already lost the next war.

rayiner ranked #16 [karma: 125434]

> The US economy depends on the country's position of world hegemon

Citation needed? This feels like a retcon. Remember that the U.S. became the biggest economy in the world in 1890: https://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/disp_textbook.cfm?smtid=2&.... That was half a century before World War II and the military empire that followed.

toomuchtodo ranked #23 [karma: 105605]

$1.4M defense fund (so far), exceptional legal team, jury nullification, lots of paths to success. His case is going well so far, and appeals are always an option. “Proof beyond a reasonable doubt” is the bar.

How confident are you there isn’t at least one juror who hasn’t been harmed by their health insurance, financially or medically? Only takes one.

dragonwriter ranked #15 [karma: 127137]

Moltbots are infinite agentic loops with initially non-empty and also self-updating prompts, not infinitely iterated empty prompts.

userbinator ranked #35 [karma: 87824]

I have seen phone schematics for many generic Androids, and at least for them, this comment is complete BS. The AP loads the firmware for the modem when it's turned on and boots it, and completely powers off the modem when asked to turn it off, e.g. in airplane mode. No idea about Apple though, they tend to Think Different™.

rayiner ranked #16 [karma: 125434]

The term “crime of violence,” used in a number of federal criminal statutes, is notoriously unclear and subject to a lot of litigation: https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R45220 (“Since the CCCA's enactment, reviewing courts have had to interpret and apply the statutory definition of a crime of violence, sometimes reaching disparate conclusions over the scope of that term.”).

paxys ranked #41 [karma: 78481]

"Largely" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. Yes Google and Amazon are making their own GPU chips, but they are also buying as many Nvidia chips as they can get their hands on. As are Microsoft, Meta, xAI, Tesla, Oracle and everyone else.

dragonwriter ranked #15 [karma: 127137]

> The article doesn't explain clearly why, even though no one seems to be disputing the murder, the murder charge is being dismissed.

I mean, its literally being dismissed because the defendant successfully disputed the murder (as even a valid charge under the prosecutors own allegations.) He also, in the parallel state case which does not rely on the much narrower federal murder statute used in the federal case, is disputing the alleged murder as a matter of fact.

So, it is inaccurate to say “no one is disputing the murder”.

simonw ranked #28 [karma: 96984]

I've been writing about why Clawdbot is a terrible idea for 3+ years already!

If I could figure out how to build it safely I'd absolutely do that.

jacquesm ranked #2 [karma: 237918]

Alternative: the system exists, so people in the know may well have done proper risk assessment and may have identified multiple reasons that could result in a collision. Some of those reasons are accidental, some are not.

toomuchtodo ranked #23 [karma: 105605]

America is the way it is because of its people. It’s unfortunate to understand reality. The world will go on without the US.

crazygringo ranked #39 [karma: 81131]

Of course, we get less sun from being outdoors less and wearing more sunscreen. This isn't just a possibility, this is generally understood.

dragonwriter ranked #15 [karma: 127137]

The interior immigration raids at issue here are unrelated to the border search exception and generally outside of the associated 100-mile "border zone" that exists under executive policy and that the courts have found reasonable absent more specific rules from Congress.

crazygringo ranked #39 [karma: 81131]

That's the point of self-driving fleets. Or maybe a special category of leased vehicles.

This is about a self-driving car you own.

simonw ranked #28 [karma: 96984]

"vibe coding plus rigorous verification" is a really good way of describing it.

bookofjoe ranked #25 [karma: 102531]

I would be very surprised if anyone got vitamin d levels measured who didn't specifically request it.

toomuchtodo ranked #23 [karma: 105605]
WalterBright ranked #40 [karma: 78764]

Washington state, as part of their frenzy of tax increases, decided that gold and silver bullion will be subject to the sales tax. Poof! There goes any point in investing in gold and silver. (Collector coins, too.)

coldtea ranked #32 [karma: 89689]

>I debated with Claude endlessly about this selection model, and Claude made me discard a bunch of interesting but less defensible claims. But in the end, I was able to convince Claude it’s a good model

Convinced an LLM to agree with you? What a feat!

Yegge's latest posts are not exactly half AI slop - half marketing same (for Beads and co), but close enough.

dragonwriter ranked #15 [karma: 127137]

> Their ban of “non-consensual sexual imagery” made several acquaintances of mine – furry art illustrators – move to harmful communities on questionable Mastodon servers.

Furry art, including quite explicit furry art, is very common on bluesky and doesn’t seem be especially restricted by policy. I mean, unless they also happen to be depicting nonconsensual sexual interactions, an orthogonal concern to the furry aspect.

> I’m growing tired of those bans on legal content that isn’t inherently harmful (we are talking about fictional humanized animals here) but considered “icky” by platforms and payment processors.

Well, you are free to avail yourself of the forums that lack those policies. Now, I know you’ve complained that they are “harmful”, but... Maybe there is a reason that other forums choose to put bans in place.

paxys ranked #41 [karma: 78481]

This is the "dump" part of pump and dump. TikTok influencers have been pushing the gold & silver rally for weeks now, and it was inevitable that people at the top would eventually cash out.

toomuchtodo ranked #23 [karma: 105605]

It would be useful imho if an option was available for the phone to automatically enter this mode if separated for more than X seconds from a paired watch or airtag, or with sufficient vibration/acceleration (throw or stomp it). Similar adversarial defense as the phone rebooting after three days [1]. Perhaps part of Advanced Data Protection.

Not legal advice. Having a trusted contact remotely wipe the device is also a potential option with appropriate iCloud creds and a message passed [2], assuming the device is not powered down or kept in a physical location blocking internet/cellular channels.

[1] New Apple security feature reboots iPhones after 3 days, researchers confirm - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42143265 - November 2024 (215 comments)

[2] Erase a device in Find Devices on iCloud.com - https://support.apple.com/guide/icloud/erase-a-device-mmfc0e...

bookofjoe ranked #25 [karma: 102531]
coldtea ranked #32 [karma: 89689]

None of the above are even remotely epistemologically sound.

"Or do you think that a general intelligence would be in the habit of lying to people and concealing why?"

First, why couldn't it? "At the end of the day, that would be not only unintelligent, but hostile" is hardly an argument against it. We ourselves are AGI, but we do both unintelligent and hostile actions all the time. And who said it's unintelligent to begin with? As in AGI it might very well be in my intelligent self-interests to lie about it.

Second, why is "knows it and can verify" a necessary condition? An AGI could very well not know it's one.

>And there is such a thing as "the truth", and it can be verified by anyone repeatably in the requisite (fair, accurate) circumstances, and it's not based in word games.

Epistemologically speaking, this is hardly the slam-dunk argument you think it is.

toomuchtodo ranked #23 [karma: 105605]

Perhaps the poster's curiosity is "Why is the Dallas Morning News hiring a faith reporter?"

I follow Ryan Burge and his https://www.graphsaboutreligion.com/ Substack to track the decline of religion in the US, so I am very curious about this reporting position, for example; he was also the subject of the piece submitted as Scholar of religion's decline faces his own church's closure - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41021872 - July 2024 (2 comments)

(his book "The Vanishing Church" is also very good, highly recommend: https://bakerpublishinggroup.com/products/9781587436697_the-...)

bookofjoe ranked #25 [karma: 102531]
toomuchtodo ranked #23 [karma: 105605]

IPFS [1] requires a gateway unfortunately (whether remote or running locally). If you can use content idents that are supported by web primitives, you get the distributed nature without IPFS scaffolding required. Content is versioned by hash, although I haven't looked to see if mutable torrents [2] [3] are used in this implementation. Searching via distributed hash tables for torrent metadata, cryptographically signed by the publisher, remains as a requirement imho.

Bittorrent, in my experience, "just works," whether you're relying on a torrent server or a magnet link to join a swarm and retrieve data. So, this is an interesting experiment in the IPFS, torrent, filecoin distributed content space.

[1] https://ipfs.tech/

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29920271

[3] https://www.bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0046.html

toomuchtodo ranked #23 [karma: 105605]

I think there are easy ways around this, if counterparty nation states will not share your citizenship details with the US government and you don't transit the US on a non US passport.

toomuchtodo ranked #23 [karma: 105605]

This would make an incredible network for malware to "live off the land" from a polymorphic evolutionary perspective.

bookofjoe ranked #25 [karma: 102531]
toomuchtodo ranked #23 [karma: 105605]
toomuchtodo ranked #23 [karma: 105605]

You too can start your own space exploration company if you are lucky enough to somehow obtain capital and your luck compounds sufficiently from that capital.

That luck is out of grasp of the vast majority of the population. It isn't a matter of effort, but mostly luck. Playing the lottery is not a realistic strategy to put forth from a monopoly competition perspective. 90% of startups fail, for example. They worked hard, but were unlucky.

bookofjoe ranked #25 [karma: 102531]
toomuchtodo ranked #23 [karma: 105605]

> A spokesperson for the mayor, Dora Pekec, confirmed in a text message that the new administration plans to take down the chatbot. She said a member of the Mamdani transition team had seen reporting on the bot from The Markup and THE CITY and presented it to the mayor as a possible place to save funds.

Journalism works.

tptacek ranked #1 [karma: 416315]

Secrecy in real estate negotiations is common enough that it's an exemption in many state FOIA laws.

paxys ranked #41 [karma: 78481]

Even if the capability of each platform was exactly the same, Microsoft cloud users skew heavily towards governments, large non-tech corporations and really anyone who you sell to using large sales teams, fancy dinners and kickbacks rather than quality of software. And the end result follows.

WalterBright ranked #40 [karma: 78764]

I'd have two phones (and two laptops). One for work only, the other for everything else.

anigbrowl ranked #26 [karma: 98672]

WI Realtors Association and other groups are suing the city to stop an upcoming vote

Everyone likes to complain about politicians, with good reason) but we don't talk enough about the people who are trying to buy them as a means to cut out the voters.

toomuchtodo ranked #23 [karma: 105605]
PaulHoule ranked #24 [karma: 104153]

Isn't the scrum master supposed to be a rotating role from somebody on the team?

toomuchtodo ranked #23 [karma: 105605]
PaulHoule ranked #24 [karma: 104153]

I had an Epson Ecotank ET-3000 series and was disappointed to find that the prints faded noticeably in just three month! I did a lot of research on ink permanence and got an ET-8550 and prints I made four years on that look pretty good.

Third party ink is trash though and there is no accountability. All the time I see on forums that somebody tried to make a borderless print and got an inksplosion and the common denominator is third party ink.

toomuchtodo ranked #23 [karma: 105605]

You could potentially purchase profiles on them from a data broker, and make them public if not illegal in your jurisdiction.

crazygringo ranked #39 [karma: 81131]

It seems intentionally cartoonishly irregular.

simonw ranked #28 [karma: 96984]

That's really cool.

Any chance you could add SQLite?

  % uv run --with pyeryx python 
  Installed 1 package in 1ms
  Python 3.14.0 (main, Oct  7 2025, 16:07:00) [Clang 20.1.4 ] on darwin
  Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
  >>> import eryx
  >>> sandbox = eryx.Sandbox()
  >>> result = sandbox.execute('''
  ... print("Hello from the sandbox!")
  ... x = 2 + 2
  ... print(f"2 + 2 = {x}")
  ... ''')
  >>> result
  ExecuteResult(stdout="Hello from the sandbox!\n2 + 2 = 4", duration_ms=6.83, callback_invocations=0, peak_memory_bytes=Some(16384000))
  >>> sandbox.execute('''
  ... import sqlite3
  ... print(sqlite3.connect(":memory:").execute("select sqlite_version()").fetchall())
  ... ''').stdout
  Traceback (most recent call last):
    File "<python-input-6>", line 1, in <module>
      sandbox.execute('''
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^
      import sqlite3
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      print(sqlite3.connect(":memory:").execute("select sqlite_version()").fetchall())
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      ''').stdout
      ^^^^
  eryx.ExecutionError: Traceback (most recent call last):
    File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
    File "<string>", line 125, in _eryx_exec
    File "<user>", line 2, in <module>
    File "/python-stdlib/sqlite3/__init__.py", line 57, in <module>
      from sqlite3.dbapi2 import *
    File "/python-stdlib/sqlite3/dbapi2.py", line 27, in <module>
      from _sqlite3 import *
  ModuleNotFoundError: No module named '_sqlite3'
Filed a feature request here: https://github.com/eryx-org/eryx/issues/28

crazygringo ranked #39 [karma: 81131]

Seriously, this is not a thing. It doesn't even begin to make sense. It's made up.

If you work in a factory with time cards that need to be punched in, and you punch in a buddy's who is late, that's a thing -- a very risky thing if you get caught, since it's fraud.

But the idea that you'll give a coworker your password so they can boot up and log in and somehow make it look like you're online...? Not a thing. And doesn't even make sense today when you can just open your chat client on your phone anyways and be present there. We've been in an era of remote work for a long time now.

jerf ranked #31 [karma: 90974]

If it's just the SSID it's pretty useless for making sure people are at work. I can totally connect to "Office_CA-SJC-03" from home, or any other SSID you care to name.

PaulHoule ranked #24 [karma: 104153]

Could it be that Tailwind is just "done"? If they churn it the way that other web frameworks churn, like react-router, they would be subtracting more value than they add.

PaulHoule ranked #24 [karma: 104153]

Conventional web search: I use Google's AI Mode almost exclusively when I use Google.

Refactoring tools in my IDE: In some cases where I could use the refactoring tools in my IDE I will ask the assistant to do something for me instead, of course it will also make changes that the refactoring tools won't do such as tear apart a complicated if-then-else ladder.

Photo retouching: there are plenty of photo retouching jobs that can be done easily with AI or with the tools built into Photoshop, which one is better depends on the situation. I really wish I had an AI tool to make masks ("cut out the person") that I could then use with the other tools or with AI generation.

bookofjoe ranked #25 [karma: 102531]
jrockway ranked #48 [karma: 73210]

Lithium primaries are great. I use them in my weather station. 2AAs have lasted at least 4 years, and still work well when it's 0F out.

bookofjoe ranked #25 [karma: 102531]
PaulHoule ranked #24 [karma: 104153]

It's a problem that government organizations are incapable of defending their interests never mind understanding that they even have an interest.

A classic example is the local bus company which runs ads for a car dealer on the outside of buses. It's the kind of sight that instantly creates a feeling that "the lights are on and nobody is home" and drives populism -- you see that and the one thing you can do is "go on strike" and try to pay as little in taxes as possible.

They make all kinds of excuses but the basic asymmetry is this: the car dealer is capable of acting on its own interests and will never show an ad for the bus company. The same is true with those EdTech companies, they can get their voice heard, but the school district, the teachers, the students, the parents, not at all. It is all an unaccountability machine.

jerf ranked #31 [karma: 90974]

"Roguelites have proliferated"

I know it's easy to feel that this is people chasing trends, but I've really come to appreciate roguelites over many of the PS2 era games because they give me real progression in a single play session, but also, that single play session is discardable.

As an adult this is a very compelling proposition.

In the PS2 era, while you can find some early roguelite-like-things, you tended to have either the games that have no interesting progression (arcade-like) and the you would just play the game, or you had very long scale games like JRPGs that slowly trickle out the progression but are also multi-dozen-hour games. Compressing the progression into something that happens in a small number of hours, yet eliminates the "I'm 50 hours into this game that I stopped 2 years ago, do I want to pick it back up if I've forgotten everything?" has been very useful to me.

This has been a fairly significant change in gaming for me. I still have some investment into the higher end JRPGs but the "roguelite" pattern across all sorts of genres has been wonderful overall. I don't even think of it as a genre anymore; it's a design tool, like 'turn based versus real time'.

jerf ranked #31 [karma: 90974]

If AIs were to plateau where they are for an extended period of time, I definitely worry about their net effect on software quality.

One of the things I worry about is people not even learning what they can ask the computer to do properly because they don't understand the underlying system well enough.

One of my little pet peeves, especially since I do a lot of work in the networking space, is code that works with strings instead of streams. For example, it is not that difficult (with proper languages and libraries) to write an HTTP POST handler that will accept a multi-gigabyte file and upload it to an S3 bucket, perhaps gzip'ing it along the way, such that any size file can be uploaded without reference to the RAM on the machine, by streaming it rather than loading the entire file into a string on upload, then uploading that file to S3, requiring massive amounts of RAM in the middle. There's still a lot of people and code out in the world that works that way. AIs are learning from all that code. The mass of not-very-well-written code can overwhelm the good stuff.

And that's just one example. A whole bunch of stuff that proliferates across a code base like that and you get yet another layer of sloppiness that chews through hardware and negates yet another few generations of hardware advances.

Another thing is that, at the moment, code that is good for an AI is also good for a human. They may not quite be 100% the same but right now they're still largely in sync. (And if we are wise, we will work to keep it that way, which is another conversation, and we probably won't because we aren't going to be this wise at scale, which is yet another conversation.) I do a lot of little things like use little types to maintain invariants in my code [1]. This is good for humans, and good for AIs. The advantages of strong typing still work for AIs as well. Yet none of the AIs I've used seem to use this technique, even with a code base in context that uses this techique extensively, nor are they very good at it, at least in my experience. They almost never spontaneously realize they need a new type, and whenever they go to refactor one of these things they utterly annihilate all the utility of the type in the process, completely blind to the concept of invariants. Not only do they tend to code in typeless goo, they'll even turn well-typed code back into goo if you let them. And the AIs are not so amazing that they overcome the problems even so.

(The way these vibe coded code bases tend to become typeless formless goo as you scale your vibe coding up is one of the reasons why vibe coding doesn't scale up as well as it initially seems to. It's good goo, it's neat goo, it is no sarcasm really amazing that it can spew this goo at several lines per second, but it's still goo and if you need something stronger than goo you have problems. There are times when this is perfect; I'm just about to go spray some goo myself for doing some benchmarking where I just need some data generated. But not everything can be solved that way.)

And who is going to learn to shepherd them through writing better code, if nobody understands these principles anymore?

I started this post with an "if" statement, which wraps the whole rest of the body. Maybe AIs will advance to the point where they're really good at this, maybe better than humans, and it'll be OK that humans lose understanding of this. However, we remain a ways away from this. And even if we get there, it may yet be more years away than we'd like; 10, 15 years of accreting this sort of goo in our code bases and when the AIs that actually can clean this up get here they may have quite a hard time with what their predecessors left behind.

[1]: https://jerf.org/iri/post/2025/fp_lessons_types_as_assertion...

TeMPOraL ranked #19 [karma: 113242]

> I'm not sure I understand the point of OpenClaw -- in the sense that its benefits are not immediately obvious, while its dangers are making big red flashes and fire sirens.

I only skimmed the OpenClaw post, but unless I completely misunderstood the README in their GitHub repo, to me the benefits are stupidly obvious, and I was actually planning to look at it closer over the weekend.

The value proposition I saw is: hooking up one or more LLMs via API (BYOK) to one or more popular chat apps, via self-hostable control plane. Plus some bells and whistles.

The part about chat integration is something that I wanted to have even before LLMs were a thing, because I hate modern communication apps with burning fashion. All popular IM apps in particular[0] are just user-hostile prisons whose vendors go out of their way to make interoperability and end-user automation impossible. There's too much of that, and for a decade or more I dreamed of centralizing all these independent networks for myself in a single app. I considered working on the problem a few times, but the barriers vendors put up were always too much for my patience.

So here I thought, maybe someone solved this problem. That alone would be valuable.

Having an LLM, especially BYOK, in your main IM app? That's a no-brainer to me too; I think it's a travesty this is not a default feature already. Especially these days, as a parent, I find a good chunk of my IM use involves manually copy-pasting messages and photos to some LLM to turn them into reminders and calendar invites. And that's one of many use cases I have for tight IM/LLM integration.

So here I thought maybe this project will be a quick and easy way to finally get a sane, end-user-programmable chat experience. Shame to see it might be vaporware and/or a scam.

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[0] - Excepting Telegram, which has a host of other problems - but I'd be fine living with them; unfortunately, everyone I need to communicate with uses either WhatsApp or Facebook Messenger these days.

rayiner ranked #16 [karma: 125434]

Do you cook the oats beforehand?

jacquesm ranked #2 [karma: 237918]

Ah, the true Scotsman version of 'not that kind of app'.

danso ranked #9 [karma: 166699]

How many times do you believe immigration agents showed up door to door with riot gear and rifles back then? When it was caught on camera during the Clinton administration it was one of the most polarizing images of his presidency

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eli%C3%A1n_Gonz%C3%A1lez

rayiner ranked #16 [karma: 125434]

I agree, but what do you do when people are steeped in misinformation about water use and 5G signals?

jacquesm ranked #2 [karma: 237918]

> Dual gate mosfets were a godsend when building RF/IF mixers or preamps.

exactly :)

BF901 FTW.

TeMPOraL ranked #19 [karma: 113242]

Sure, but we have high growth on top of that - meaning all those "perpetual intermediaries" are always the minority and gravitate upwards in the org chain, while ~all the coding work is done by people who just started working in the field, and didn't even learn enough yet to become mediocre.

jacquesm ranked #2 [karma: 237918]

You only speak for yourself. Even so, it is quite telling.

jacquesm ranked #2 [karma: 237918]

"There are no shortcuts to expertise".

What a fantastic post this.

jacquesm ranked #2 [karma: 237918]

> One crash in 500,000 miles would merely put them on par with a human driver.

> One crash every 50,000 miles would be more like having my sister behind the wheel.

I'm not sure if that leads to the conclusion that you want it to.

TeMPOraL ranked #19 [karma: 113242]

All doctors make things up and get things wrong occasionally. The less experienced and more overworked they are, the more often this happens.

Again, LLMs aren't competing with the best human doctors. They're competing with doctors you actually have access to.

TeMPOraL ranked #19 [karma: 113242]

Sure! But if I experience it, and then write about my experience, parts of it become available for LLMs to learn from. Beyond that, even the tacit aspects of that experience, the things that can't be put down in writing, will still leave an imprint on anything I do and write from that point on. Those patterns may be more or less subtle, but they are there, and could be picked up at scale.

I believe LLM training is happening at a scale great enough for models to start picking up on those patterns. Whether or not this can ever be equivalent to living through the experience personally, or at least asymptomatically approach it, I don't know. At the limit, this is basically asking about the nature of qualia. What I do believe is that continued development of LLMs and similar general-purpose AI systems will shed a lot of light on this topic, and eventually help answer many of the long-standing questions about the nature of conscious experience.

doener ranked #42 [karma: 78003]
pjc50 ranked #22 [karma: 105732]

I think this is a good lesson in why companies don't try to bring stuff to Linux: the market is incredibly resentful of products.

pjc50 ranked #22 [karma: 105732]

This is a problem with basically all "spare power" schemes: paying for the grid hookup and land on which you situate your thing isn't free, as well as the interest rate cost of capital; so the lower the duty cycle the less economic it is.

stavros ranked #45 [karma: 75543]

Famously so. The main method of deployment was an offline installer before they made Galaxy, and AFAIK Galaxy just downloads and runs the installer.